Nov 10, 2018 #1 this may have been posted in the wrong area once before. Kind of a pain as only good place to mount a battery tray made opening the hood difficult. This indicates ⦠And if their catalog is not showing the engine you have use their cross reference chart from one of the ⦠Set gap at .025" with a self-energizing magneto or solid state electronic ignition system, .035" with a full ⦠Weak spark. Location cottage grove, mn . Towed back to Garage. The engine spins freely with starter, but will not start at all. If the engine starts, the ignition switch will not shut the engine off. Does anyone know if these are prone to this type of intermittent failure as they get older (13 years)? This ignition can't be tested by removing the kill wire from the coil. Grab an online service manual to confirm which system you are working with. Kohler m18 new coil still no spark. 4. Hydramaster Aug 12, 2020. The engine will be weak, the unburned fuel will foul the spark plug, and the exhaust will pop. I pulled the points cover off and they were pretty dirty. Thread starter powerking1218; Start date Mar 31, 2014; Tags bad ignition coil kohler m18 m20 no spark; P. powerking1218 LawnSite Member. We may offer you the ability to connect with our websites or use our applications, services, and tools using a mobile device, either through a mobile application or via a mobile optimized website. checking spark is easy, first pull the plug from the cylinder then plug the spark plug back into the wire lean the base of the spark plug against the cylinder or one of the fins so u can see the diode, pull the cord and look for bright blue spark and listen for crackle. Model CV16S - 43519. A reading of "1" indicates complete resistance, or no connectivity. A gasoline engine needs three things in order to run: fuel, compression and spark. I would say in my experience with other small engines the spark intensity looks weak. However, not unlike all engines in this class, problems do occur. Considered best of breed by many in the small engine trade, Kohlers are among the most reliable and innovative engines on the market. Looking for Site or Help in how to test the Engine Rectifier, Stator, Engine Module and Digital Module. Make sure the engine has the correct spark plugs and they’re gapped correctly. A local shop in my area had over ⦠Keep in mind that most dealers don’t accept returns on electrical parts, so be sure the part you order is to blame, otherwise you could be stuck with a brand new $300 ignition part, such as a CDI box, and a sled that still won’t run. The model # is 917.288611 and the engine is a 26 hp kohler engine with the courage pro name on it. If there's a better forum that specializes in small engine repair please, WHEN there is no spark is the time to T/S. Our goal is to provide you with an experience that delivers the information, resources and services that are helpful to you. Being this is a magneto engine you wouldn't need to ground the engine for spark. Remember to follow all safety precautions before starting any work on your engine. Please be aware this is only to further test the coil. If the spark improves, the problem is within wiring from one of those switches or a switch itself is to blame. This Policy will be referenced by all such mobile applications or mobile optimized websites. When troubles occur, be sure to check the simple 9. The engine cranks turns over but has no spark⦠This is an old question I've had. You can replace the secondary coil wire on an engine that uses one with an equal length of vacuum hose and the engine will start and run. Acts like it may start when you let up on the ⦠2. Snowmobile Racing | Sled Reviews | Snowmobiling Gear. I've been running the engine with 87 octane with stabil for about a month. But lack of spark often throws people for a loop because the problem can’t be seen — a bad stator, for example, looks no worse than a good one — and it could be from multiple sources. Some of the newer engines use a SMART SPARK system or even VARIABLE TIMING systems. Kohler Engines manufactures small engines for riding lawn mowers, garden tractors, walk-behind lawn mowers, concrete construction equipment, outdoor power equipment, welders, pressure washers and other products. High Quality non-resistor/copper core Spark Plugs for Kohler engine models K90/K91, most Briggs & Stratton and small Tecumseh engines. Kohler 14 hp Veritcal Crank (Age - 12 years homeowner use) Battery is new (one month usage, and it cranks strong) This gas is fresh but I added stabil to it because I thought I was done for the season a month ago. If our Policy changes in the future, we will notify our customers and website users of any such changes by posting an updated policy on our website. Air ⦠No spark⦠Start diagnosis and repair with the simplest and least expensive culprits by working through the following inspections. Required fields are marked *. The purpose of the ignition coil is to send the appropriate voltage to the spark plug as the engine ⦠The gap is not ajustable by the instructions to the .012 gap with ⦠Check connection of the spark plug cap to the spark plug wire. Took easy way out and converted it to battery coil. July 30, 2010 considered. Youâll find every manual we make in one easy location. The powerful spark will travel down the hollow hose to the distributor cap, but the engine will stall under any load because of the weakened spark. Did make engine ⦠3. Kohler Engine Weak Spark. The Kohler service manual calls for a .040" plug gap. Well if this is a magneto engine then the on/off switch is to ground the points out so the engine shuts off. By the way, the twin cylinder Kohler Magnum was a great engine. On my John Deere mower with a 17.5 hp Kohler CV491S single cylinder OHV engine, the JD manual calls for a plug gap of .030". Kohler Marine Engines range has been expanded including two new models: KDI2504M-MP and KDI1903M-MP . Snow Goer Store Offers Current, Classic Issues, BRP Wins Lawsuit; Injunction Halts Sale Of Cat Sleds In Canada, Ishoel Adds Another Win In Saturday Night Snocross Fights, Snocross Is Back, And So Is The Fantasy Snowmobile Racing Challenge, Snocross Adapts: Fanless Opener, New SoDak Event, DD Racing Signs Wittwer, Heads For ISOC Nationals. You failed to mention spark plug caps. Listed below are Kohler engine service repair manual in Adobe PDF format that you can download for free. For example, a starting problem could be 10. I'm going to look for one, You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (, http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm, http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. ⦠In the meantime, I'd locate a, Thanks to whoever suggested the spark tester. This privacy policy (this “Policy”) describes the personal information we may collect from you, the purposes for which we collect it, how we use it and when we may share it with third parties. Click on your engine listed below to download. Page 32 Section 3 Troubleshooting Engine Overheats External Engine Inspection 1. KOHLER Genuine Parts Only KOHLER genuine parts are engineered for KOHLER engines⦠You may notice that the engine on your Kohler lawnmower is cracking but it still wonât ... you will see a strong spark between the terminals of the tester as the engine gets cranking. Was plowing heavy driveway snow when the Engine quit abruptly after several hours of operation. Test the stator resistance to make sure it’s within the manufacturer’s specification. If this is impossible then grab the spark ⦠By the time I fiddle with ignition switch and safety switch to see if something is not making contact, it mysteriously starts. Have an 18 HP Kohler Magnum engine one cyl has bright crisp Have an 18 HP Kohler Magnum engine one cyl has bright crisp spark on the tester and the other side is very weak and dim. Your email address will not be published. I have a Bolens Eliminator 1700 Kohler 17HP as of right now NO Spark. Engine overheated-cooling/air circulation causes which, at ï¬ rst, may seem too obvious to be restricted. 1. Kohler Engine Service Manuals and Kohler Engine Owner's Manuals are available. Common solutions for: Kohler Small engine wonât start 01 - Spark Plug Inspect the spark plug for signs of wear or damage. Used in-line Spark Check Illuminator for diagnosis. This might seem silly and really elementary, but seemingly big problems are sometimes caused by the simplest failures. Joined Nov 8, 2018 Threads 2 Messages 4. No spark means that the spark plug is defective and needs to be replaced. You are responsible for regularly reviewing this Policy and any changes thereto. Engine would crank, but not fire up. Disconnect the main electrical connector coming out of the engine, and then check for spark again. Copper core spark plugs allows ignition coil to operate cooler and last longer. If the mixture is excessively lean, the engine will misfire since the fuel molecules in the intake air are too far apart. FIND YOUR MANUAL . No fuel or compression? Twice now it has failed to start due to no spark. So if you bypassed the switch it would be in the off position right now. Tractor 917.271041, Kohler Command Engine CV16S Spec. Think of your friends and riding partners who have the same or similar snowmobile. Low compression is also a mechanical issue a technician can actually see and wrap his or her head around. Other than a weak coil, or if the choke isn't closed up fully or there is an air leak at the intake, I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't start on the first or second pull. I have a craftsman lawn tractor with an 18HP Kohler twin, model M18S. You do not need all the tools. Can’t tell you how many times, I have replaced these things. Disconnect the main electrical connector coming out of the engine, and then check for spark again. Kohler 17 HP no spark. If the porcelain insulator is cracked, an electrode is burned away or damaged, or there is heavy carbon buildup at the electrode, replace the spark plug. This unhooks the kill switch, ignition switch and wiring for those switches. If the spark improves, the problem is within wiring from one of those switches or a switch itself is to blame. small engines the spark intensity looks weak. You might be able to borrow parts from their machines to diagnose the problem. I have a Kohler K341 16 H.P. E-10 or E15 Ethanol might be bad for your truck mount engine. The system requires 12 volts to the module. Your email address will not be published. chevy4wd; May 22, 2018; General Hardware; Replies 8 Views 8K. Thread starter Beercan31; Start date Nov 10, 2018; B. Beercan31 Forum Newbie. What color spark do you have with the engine cold? If you do not agree to these terms, do not use the services. Read the full policy here: https://epgmediallc.com/privacy-policy/, SNOWMOBILE TECH TIP: Diagnose weak spark or lack of spark, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window). The points are opening and when I put a test light on the coil's negative coil post it flashes on and off as the engine turns over. motor with no spark. I encountered loads of these engines at a go-cart track in the early 1980's, and ⦠I hate to ⦠You have the ASAM analog speed advance module kohler smart spark ignition system. ). The provisions of this Policy apply to all such mobile access and use of mobile devices. I have a craftsman lawn tractor with an 18HP Kohler twin, model M18S. I emailed Kohler and of course thaty said theirs was correct. This âjumping the gapâ creates a high energy spark that ignites the air fuel mixture in your engine.At the same time, the condenser soaks up a residual electric spike that occurs in the primary winding during collapse of the magnetic field.All of this happens in a fraction of a second and is repeated every third cycle during your engineâs ⦠PistolPete. These service manuals provide general information, adjustment, specifications, tolerances, ⦠March 14th, 2018. If the mag modules have more than one push on terminal, they are likely SMART SPARK ⦠Youâre in the right place. If you do not continue to use the EPG’ websites following a change to our Policy but take no other action with respect to your personal information, our use of that information will remain subject to our Policy as it was in effect prior to the change. Not much will typically go wrong with a Kohler engine. Now you’ll need to disconnect each switch (one at a time) to trace it to the failed part. It Could be the Ignition Coil. Kohler coil crazy priced. Those are easier to track down because they’re usually due to a mechanical problem like a dirty carburetor. Will not start. This Privacy Policy sets forth the privacy principles we follow, in accordance with our operations. Have a 16 Hp Kohler engine. This coil runs both ⦠read more My question is about the ignition unit. Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Mark Leininger, Jul 11, 2004. Owner's and Service Manuals Looking for an ownerâs or service manual? I have replaced the coil, condenser, high tension cable, battery, checked the timing, bypassed the ignition switch and still get no spark please help. Report This by GORDON POSCHEL. Is full of electronics. While many times a result of a simple oversight such as running out of fuel more difficult issues require appropriate resources, as well as a systematic troubles⦠When selecting a spark plug for your Kohler small engine from another manufacture (NGK, Bosch, Autolite, AC) then listed here, it is best to use their reference catalog to see what spark plug they recommend for your Kohler engine. If troubles persist after checking the possible causes listed or you are unable to identify the problem, call KOHLER Engines Customer Service at 1-800-544-2444 or contact your local KOHLER dealer. Below we have provided a link to these manuals which can also be download. Mar 31, 2014 #1 hello I have a Kohler twin cylinder (Magnum) M18 with 600 hours on a A Power King 1218 Economy Tractor. We discuss our information collection practices below. By using the any of our websites and/or making online requests of products, you agree to the terms and conditions of EPG’s Policy. In order to achieve this goal, we may collect information from you. This Privacy Policy sets forth the privacy practices with respect to your information when you use our software, mobile applications and services (“Services”) . After my husband tried to adjust the coil / module, spark adv part # 24 584 63-s gap now he can get a weak spark from both of the spark plug wires. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We want you to know that we respect the privacy and security of our users. Those I have no experience with and will require more in depth investigation of their ignition module connections and functions. Last year I started getting very weak spark on the Kohler on my old Gravely. Also check the spark plug wire condition. You can get the specs from a dealer or try a search online. This Policy also describes the choices you can make about how we collect, use and disclose your information when you provide it to us on any EPG Media & Specialty Information properties will not collect, use or disclose your personal information other than in compliance with this Policy. This unhooks the kill switch, ignition switch and wiring for those switches. The thing I noticed is you said you bypassed the on/off switch. 43514. Is there some way to diagnose this other than stick a screwdriver in the sparkplug wire to see if there's a visible spark? the machine is in ⦠Replaced the points/condenser and still at best occasionally weak spark. Has no fire at spark plug wire. 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